Having just got over bronchitis and sinusitis contracted while on holiday abroad, I was interested to read about infections occuring after encountering a pathogen (a virus?!) for the first time.
I hadn't been ill for years (since January 2020), and was generally healthy but it did make me wonder whether I was exposed to something on the plane or in Tenerife that seemed to bypass my immune sysytem. Went straight for my lungs. A friend has just had the same problem after going abroad too so these foreign microbes are little rotters!
“Catching” colds or flu on the plane is the killer of terrain theory as it is well known that the air is recycled on planes.
Whole families of 5 or 6 develop after taking a flight together the same or similar symptoms and then upper respiratory infections, which often are treated with the same antibiotic…
One can make predictions with very high accuracy that if one or more of the family members develop the same or similar symptoms others will soon follow…
Making accurate predictions is a part of the scientific method…but some people don’t want to acknowledge that ;-)
Lovely and warm, thank you. A great winter destination and a good mix of fine Spanish (and Italian/Indian!) food, banana plantations, dark blue seas and ochre mountains.
Seasonality does not fit the Terrain Hypothesis because why would people on hospitals or nursing homes all of the sudden were exposed to more toxins in the winter? And in some climates winter is just a name as the weather does not change significantly….
You are right in a way though about the “environment”…
Please read what ChatGPT said regarding “environmental factors” and how they influence microbes to outcompete each other due to mutations for example.
Many geneticists use radiation to induce mutations in plants, or bacteria… Even point mutations, or neutral mutations, can give a slight advantage to a plant or a bacteria.
We know from chest x-rays that when some bacteria outgrow other bacteria and evade the immune system, they can take over tissues (in lungs) and if not treated they can kill patients…
This scenario can be and is tested by the scientific method in labs everyday worldwide… That’s why nobody from the “No Virus No Germ” crowd wants to talk about it because this very facts kills their hypothesis, which they can’t test and therefore won’t propose the method or a model, that terrain is the cause of all diseases and microbes are just firefighters…
If Terrain Theory supporters want to be truthful, they need to address antibiotic or chloroquine resistance first…
Chat gpt says viruses exist and Tomas as some little illustrations therefore viruses exist?
Laughable
Where did you see me say viruses exist? I said microbes, which is not the same thing, is it?
Why have illustration of an alleged virus then and create a piece about ‘No virus’ people?
Can you prove viruses don’t exist?
One doesn’t need an alternative hypothesis to debunk an existing one, one only need debunk it
Can you?
https://substack.com/home/post/p-67640295
I never made that claim
How are those two things related?
Having just got over bronchitis and sinusitis contracted while on holiday abroad, I was interested to read about infections occuring after encountering a pathogen (a virus?!) for the first time.
I hadn't been ill for years (since January 2020), and was generally healthy but it did make me wonder whether I was exposed to something on the plane or in Tenerife that seemed to bypass my immune sysytem. Went straight for my lungs. A friend has just had the same problem after going abroad too so these foreign microbes are little rotters!
“Catching” colds or flu on the plane is the killer of terrain theory as it is well known that the air is recycled on planes.
Whole families of 5 or 6 develop after taking a flight together the same or similar symptoms and then upper respiratory infections, which often are treated with the same antibiotic…
One can make predictions with very high accuracy that if one or more of the family members develop the same or similar symptoms others will soon follow…
Making accurate predictions is a part of the scientific method…but some people don’t want to acknowledge that ;-)
Its the air con
How was Tenerife?
Lovely and warm, thank you. A great winter destination and a good mix of fine Spanish (and Italian/Indian!) food, banana plantations, dark blue seas and ochre mountains.
I visit the Canary Islands regularly :-)
Good question! But the first step would be to eliminate seasonality, right? It’s possible… but very hard to prove IMHO…
Seasonality does not fit the Terrain Hypothesis because why would people on hospitals or nursing homes all of the sudden were exposed to more toxins in the winter? And in some climates winter is just a name as the weather does not change significantly….
Thank you very much for your experience!
My personal feeling is that we just don’t know yet enough about our bodies and our environment to make those calls…
I really appreciate your personal input here.
Thanks again!
Germs are not firefighters!
You are right in a way though about the “environment”…
Please read what ChatGPT said regarding “environmental factors” and how they influence microbes to outcompete each other due to mutations for example.
Many geneticists use radiation to induce mutations in plants, or bacteria… Even point mutations, or neutral mutations, can give a slight advantage to a plant or a bacteria.
We know from chest x-rays that when some bacteria outgrow other bacteria and evade the immune system, they can take over tissues (in lungs) and if not treated they can kill patients…
This scenario can be and is tested by the scientific method in labs everyday worldwide… That’s why nobody from the “No Virus No Germ” crowd wants to talk about it because this very facts kills their hypothesis, which they can’t test and therefore won’t propose the method or a model, that terrain is the cause of all diseases and microbes are just firefighters…
If Terrain Theory supporters want to be truthful, they need to address antibiotic or chloroquine resistance first…
This is actually not a good thing for your health unless you live in the environment without clean water or you are exposed to human waste…